Comments on: How to Calm an Angry Child https://www.janetlansbury.com/2016/03/how-to-calm-an-angry-child/ elevating child care Mon, 07 Aug 2023 09:18:22 +0000 hourly 1 By: Alyssa https://www.janetlansbury.com/2016/03/how-to-calm-an-angry-child/comment-page-1/#comment-132890 Mon, 07 Aug 2023 09:18:22 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=16273#comment-132890 This article was something I desperately needed to see.
My son is almost 7 years old, and over the past year has had regular and intense meltdowns.
To make a very long story short, we believe that he actually has anxiety – that all his anger (which goes unresolved even though we give him space and try to “debrief” when he is calm) is a fight response to a social anxiety – an intense fear of rejection…even from strangers. Once he burst into tears after a meltdown and told me that 3 weeks ago, while we were at Disneyland, he noticed someone pointed at him and said, “look at that idiot.” I want to cry thinking about the intense pain he is carrying around in his sweet soul, but we’re making contact with the right resources so hopefully this will get under control.
My question isn’t actually about him, though. And while I would love for you to chime in on the “right” thing to say to HIM, I struggle with what to say to his older brother, who is 9.
They fight. A LOT. We have gotten to the point where we have a weekly meeting (on our family calendar!) where we can talk about respect and how we treat each other. We talked about what went well, and what we struggled with so that we can have a space to listen to each other in a calm setting (not after a fight, for example, when emotions are high), and reflect a little on our interactions and our own reactions. I’m trying so hard to break some patterns of behavior they have gotten into! I don’t know if these patterns got worse with the birth of their sister, who is now 2, but the funny thing is…she is the only thing they they agree on. They both adore her, and they don’t compete for her attention…they both just love on her in their own ways. And she is actually a regulating force for my 7 year old. Go figure.
Usually, it’s my 7 year old that picks a fight with the 9 year old. After careful observations over the last few months, I have noticed that he does it when he is a bit dysregulated – perhaps his anxiety is quite high, or something is not quite right. And I believe he does it because he NEEDS to cry. He needs the release, and he won’t stop until everyone’s emotions are high so he finally feels allowed to burst. This has led to asking my 9 year old to learn to walk away, and learn how to give space. But, oh, he struggles. It seems unfair to him — he tries so hard to practice staying calm and learning how to “take it” and not fight back. I struggle with what to say to him. He’s quite down to earth, and honesty is usually the best policy, but I also don’t feel that it’s fair to be his brother’s keeper, of sorts (although… the utter acceptance from the big brother would do wonders for the self esteem of the 7 year old).
Is 9 too young to expect him to remain Unruffled? I have taught him how to redirect unwanted behaviors from the 2 year old…he’s really good at it. But what’s an age appropriate way to have him help manage his brother’s anxiety?
I believe he needs to be part of the conversation. We are a family and we should support each other. I believe he could help regulate his brother, but….should I expect him to? It’s a lot! He has come to me so frustrated saying, “I keep trying and trying, but nothing is working!!!!” – and if I am honest…I know exactly how he feels. I hear him out, let him go play with his friends, spend quality time with him, but….. I kind of feel like I am failing no matter what I do right now. Like I’m deep in a hole, trying to build myself a ladder with the tools in my toolbox (my education in child development, my experience as a teacher, knowing my kids, my husband, our network, resources, etc.)… and I’m just stuck. I read some comments about a ” hostage situation” for the rest of the family when some kids get angry. That’s what it feels like! And that’s when my temper starts to flair as I try to regain control. We have to do a divide and conquer situation, but when I am on my own with the kids it is REALLY hard to diffuse things because tensions are so high, and then my 9 year old is also upset and frustrated because I’m not able to meet his needs. He has to wait until his little brother is sorted out before we can address his feelings. And then the 2 year old chimes in with screaming because she senses the tension. What a mess! Any words of wisdom?

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By: Ale Munoz https://www.janetlansbury.com/2016/03/how-to-calm-an-angry-child/comment-page-1/#comment-131430 Mon, 21 Mar 2022 01:22:33 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=16273#comment-131430 In reply to rick ackerly.

I try to do this with my daughter. It’s getting harder as we have a newborn and I can’t always put him down ‘safely’ away from her hitting or throwing things at us.

I’m not sure what to do when baby’s in my arms ..

Suggestions?

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By: janet https://www.janetlansbury.com/2016/03/how-to-calm-an-angry-child/comment-page-1/#comment-130090 Fri, 19 Mar 2021 16:50:22 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=16273#comment-130090 In reply to Rose.

Hi Rose – That sounds challenging. Reasoning with children of any age (or even adults) seldom helps when they are in a dysregulated state, and can make matters worse. Have you had your son assessed by an OT or other professional? I would consider that he does need a way to express this anger. Screaming and shouting can be healthy ways for a child to do that. Can you keep him and others safe while allowing him to scream and shout.

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By: Rose https://www.janetlansbury.com/2016/03/how-to-calm-an-angry-child/comment-page-1/#comment-130088 Fri, 19 Mar 2021 03:23:13 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=16273#comment-130088 In reply to janet.

Please can you advise what to do if the out of control anger behaviour has not gone away with age – my son is now 8 and very solid. When he gets angry he can be physical – like barging, kicking – to me or to whomever he’s having the altercation with, and cannot be reasoned with. Each time this happens we tell him at the time and later that hitting/ out of control anger/ screaming/shouting is not acceptable – that we need to talk calmly and not be physical. I can’t pick him up to remove him as he has gotten too big.

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By: Anon https://www.janetlansbury.com/2016/03/how-to-calm-an-angry-child/comment-page-1/#comment-129389 Fri, 14 Aug 2020 19:20:36 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=16273#comment-129389 In reply to Dee.

Dee, I hear you loud and clear. It is so tough when you have to fight your way through every day.
My son was a shocker for not wanting to do what needed to be done, even when it was something HE wanted to do. The tantrums were truly spectacular and, if “Throwing a wobbly” was considered a qualification he would have aced all the exams!!
It was worse if I was tired or hungry or hadn’t left myself enough time to accommodate the “hostage situation” that ensued.
I have spent many years beating myself up emotionally for losing it and it has taken a lot of time and energy to realise I did what I did with the skills I had at the time.
As parents and teachers, we can see the sense in all of these wonderful ideas and heart-felt parenting tips and they are great. BUT we are not going to get it right every time. All we can humanly do is our best.
We can also only be responsible for ourselves. I believe children learn to take responsiblity for their behaviours over time, but in the meantime, we must not blame ourselves for what they do.
Do all you can to give yourself and your child enough time for what you know is likely to happen.
Give yourself permission to ride it out and let things go their natural course. Face each day with the thought that it will be better than yesterday.
Take note of what was good, what worked and what was positive, leaving the negative behind.
Make routines – After church every Sunday sit down and have hot chocolate together as a family, etc.
Talk about the great things you see in your child when he can hear you. “He helped us to get to church on time this week, it was great”
Keep reminding yourself you are a good parent.
xx

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By: TJ https://www.janetlansbury.com/2016/03/how-to-calm-an-angry-child/comment-page-1/#comment-127990 Thu, 19 Sep 2019 14:10:14 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=16273#comment-127990 Thank you Janet so much, I can’t tell you how much your podcasts and post help me deal with parenting.

I have a 3 year old and 6 month old. And the past couple of weeks have been super tough. My son is hitting more and started throwing toys around the house. Just yesterday he threw his toys up in the air and started laughing and ran away from me so I can’t stop him from throwing toys. Eventually when I did get a hold of him I told him I won’t let him throw things and he started yelling “let me go.” I then got up and gathered his toys and moved it into the garage so he can’t access it.

Should I be removing the toys that he’s throwing? And I notice that he’s laughing or smiling and when my husband and I stop him for hitting or throwing.

Thank you

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By: Jen https://www.janetlansbury.com/2016/03/how-to-calm-an-angry-child/comment-page-1/#comment-127826 Mon, 05 Aug 2019 18:45:07 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=16273#comment-127826 This is all so good. I wish my son was just throwing tantrums with blocks or a play kitchen. Somehow, our family got in a bad cycle and we are all so miserable. I was such a gentle parent with my little ones. Now my son is 10, my daughter is 8–and my gentle parenting has just maybe become permissive. Whatever is going on, we are not doing a good job anymore.

My 10 year old rages against his sister constantly. If she is in the room, he is watching her. Listening to her. Fuming over every little thing she says or does. If she coughs, he yells SHUT UP! If she smiles, he yells, GET OUT! He calls her hurtful names (she’s overweight. I impressed upon him how important it was to stop calling her fat. So now he has recently started calling her a “swollen butt-monster” instead.) He hits, pinches, kicks, and throws stuff at her. Always with restraint. Never quite enough to really really hurt. But it’s constant.

It’s so bad at home right now.

She is not blameless. She knows that she has the power to get her brother upset. So when she notices she is bothering him, she really leans into it. Obviously she wants his attention and will take whatever she can get. I wish she would just steer clear of him, but she constantly puts herself in a position to poke at him (physically or verbally).

But he is so angry. So anxious. And so depressed. After he has calmed down, he will often start crying about feeling so guilty. He doesn’t want to do treat his sister this way. But he can’t stop.

My husband and I are so upset that we are no longer gentle. We are not holding it together. When he starts hitting, pushing, kicking, or verbally attacking her, we will often lash out, yelling at him “knock it off! Stop it! Be quiet! Be DONE with this NOW! and even GET OUT OF THIS HOUSE or GO TO YOUR ROOM AND TAKE SOME DEEP BREATHS!” (which is ridiculous. obviously yelling at him to go take some calming breaths is laughable).

We try to get them to say kind things about each other. We try to encourage them to do things together that they enjoy–to try to get them to connect and see each other as human. But it always ends with him attacking her. I feel an urgency to keep her safe. I worry that his constant hurtful words– (You are an EVIL Butt Monster! You are a swollen butt. You are squishing everything you sit on with your big stinky swollen body!)–I’m afraid it will permanently injure her psyche.

We’ve started therapy with our son for his anxiety and depression. It’s going well for him–but slow. But my husband and I are not doing well. (our marriage is fine, but we are not parenting successfully right now and are both depressed).

Any advice? One of your books that you might point us to? I am in tears almost every day, feeling like a failure. I’m so sad that my children are so amazingly rude to each other. I’m embarrassed that they are so out of control. I feel trapped. I can’t get a babysitter–I wouldn’t dare. We have to limit our time with extended family because we get such awful advice (last night my in-laws told us we need to be hitting our children. That just talking obviously doesn’t work and we are ruining them by not hitting them). And we have a sweet 2 1/2 year old daughter who is learning negative behaviors by watching her brother and sister fight constantly.

I’m so lost and so sad and so discouraged. How do I get peace back into my parenting?

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By: Sigrid https://www.janetlansbury.com/2016/03/how-to-calm-an-angry-child/comment-page-1/#comment-126680 Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:58:33 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=16273#comment-126680 I can’t tell you how much your podcast and articles like this one have helped me as a parent. I had a difficult childhood and have only terrible parenting templates to fall back on. Your techniques are helping me become the parent I want to be, which is invaluable!
Just today, my three year old boy was ‘helping’ mop the floor while it was being mopped. I asked him to please get off the wet floors, as his dirty feet and broom were making it dirty again. This prompted an enormous tantrum, screaming with rage and fury that I didn’t want him to help, I wouldn’t get him his own mop to help, etc. The thing is, I knew that he was venting a lot of pent up feelings. We had to go back to the hospital this morning for x rays of his lungs just weeks after he had his appendix out. He was scared of being readmitted, but held it together for the most part while we were out.
I just sat with him, and acknowledges his anger and fury, and let him get it all out of his system. When he seemed to be running out of steam, I asked if he wanted some help calming down or if he still wanted to rage. He raged a bit longer, then curled up in my lap (he sometimes struggles to calm himself down even when he wants to). Then he told me that he was feeling a lot of feelings, but that he felt better now.
That was when I felt like I’d done the right thing, that my attempts to put your advice into action was working. It felt really good. So thank you, I really appreciate all you do!

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By: Kelly https://www.janetlansbury.com/2016/03/how-to-calm-an-angry-child/comment-page-1/#comment-125933 Tue, 20 Mar 2018 15:39:22 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=16273#comment-125933 In reply to Kathryn.

This is an excellent point! I struggled with anger management myself in my late-teens, early-twenties, until I read a very helpful book (Prescription for Anger, I believe) that explained this concept to me. It was life-changing.

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By: Dee https://www.janetlansbury.com/2016/03/how-to-calm-an-angry-child/comment-page-1/#comment-125926 Sun, 18 Mar 2018 18:25:53 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=16273#comment-125926 In reply to janet.

I think she means that you are say trying o get out the door to go to church…and your 5 yr old is stanading at the door screaming because he wants hot chocolate like daddy has and he doesn’t want to share daddy’s because it is to hot…and it Is freezing outside and you are standing in PJ’s because today you are not going to church. He won’t come in, won’t shut the door, won’t stop throwing a giant tantrum because he has decided he wants what he wants. The other children are in the car…daddy is in the car….and he is totally out of control. He is holding everyone hostage…the people who want to get to church on time….me who wants him to come in and shut the door because I am freezing. So letting him “experience ” his anger is a luxury of time that we didn’t have. I wish I could have instructed my husband to just drive away….I didn’t handle it well….and now my sadness and guilt for yelling are holding me hostage too. I literally have to psyche myself up every day….asking for prayer from God to give me the strength and patience to parent hm well. But I feel like I have no reserves left. He challenges everything. I will try to let him express his anger next time…but the real issue is the anger inside of me when he gets this way when we have a time issue. If we are good with time I have let him go through it….but when he is holding everyone else hostage (and being late is a trigger for me) I tend to not react with calm.

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