Comments on: Recognizing the Cause of Disruptive, Aggressive Behavior https://www.janetlansbury.com/2018/06/recognizing-the-cause-of-disruptive-aggressive-behavior/ elevating child care Tue, 22 Nov 2022 00:48:03 +0000 hourly 1 By: Erin https://www.janetlansbury.com/2018/06/recognizing-the-cause-of-disruptive-aggressive-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-130975 Tue, 07 Dec 2021 15:47:54 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=18849#comment-130975 In reply to Piper Kotsaftis.

Yes! Same issue here, and also waking the baby from naps! We’re in a small home with no outdoor space (below freezing outside anyway). My 4 month old has dark circles and is red and blotchy, deeply upset all the time due to lack of sleep. It gets to the point some days we’re he won’t eat cuz he’s so tired and can’t sleep due to the screaming, he’s just shaking and sobbing. How on earth am I to simply accept his brother screaming like this as a healthy vent?! He knows when he screams like that I have to pay attention to him, but what else can I do? If I leave him to scream baby will cry from fear and discomfort until he vomits!! It’s awful and makes it so hard to remain unruffled. I know my older son is not doing this intentionally to hurt his brother but that is the result! I’ve explained calmly during non charged moments about how it hurts our ears, offered alternatives, and explained and shown how when baby IS sleeping he gets much more direct attention from me but he does it anyway. It’s so self defeating! Positive attention and support IS NOT WORKING and I’m all out of calm at this point. Help!

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By: Denise https://www.janetlansbury.com/2018/06/recognizing-the-cause-of-disruptive-aggressive-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-129194 Thu, 25 Jun 2020 04:52:46 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=18849#comment-129194 One thing I’ve noticed – and noticed it a lot after having read your blog and articles for about a year, only to find out that my son has ASD, is that there is rarely any question or recommendation that the parents also look at if there are red flags developmentally & behaviorally. Screaming repeatedly and often isn’t always just a child lashing out, it can sometimes be that the child lacks emotional regulation on a deeper level, because of something neurological that is going on, that needs more support and intervention than just positive parenting (though I’m sure that positive parenting helps some, but in cases where there is an underlying, neurological disorder or issue, the parent would need a lot more help than just abandoning time-outs, etc). Just a suggestion, as very, very few people – very few pediatricians even – know all of the behavioral and developmental red flags. I know them all too well, especially now that I have an ASD older son and a neuro-typical younger son – I see the nuanced but very concrete differences in their development and behavior. I would hate to think that there are parents out there that continuously feel like their hitting a wall, not knowing what they’re doing wrong in terms of parenting, they’re reading this articles thinking they certainly can improve the situation by changing their parenting style, but all the while there is a deeper issue they’re missing because they think the screaming, kicking, not listening is part of jealousy of a younger sibling (which my ASD son had) or having changed schools, etc, when really there is an underlying issue that needs further support from professionals and therapists (and where stark improvement in behavior, etc can happen if that support is secured and maintained in early childhood).

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By: Courtney King https://www.janetlansbury.com/2018/06/recognizing-the-cause-of-disruptive-aggressive-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-127601 Tue, 04 Jun 2019 00:26:17 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=18849#comment-127601 Is there a way to handle yelling or screaming and these behaviors when a child, 3 years old, wakes in the night? It can be super hard to deal with this and the pressure from other family members, my husband or grandparents at times, in the home who work in the morning. And it wakes up our 16 month old. I try to welcome and accept her feelings and I try to stop any hitting, pushing, or squeezing too hard on our younger one. I expect these behaviors and sometimes they are a lot to deal with during the day because I can’t leave our 3 year old alone with our 16 m. That in itself is hard to do when they both want to be in the playspace or living area. So by nighttime, I am to my wits end. Any suggestions would be amazing. Thank you!

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By: Antonia https://www.janetlansbury.com/2018/06/recognizing-the-cause-of-disruptive-aggressive-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-126380 Fri, 20 Jul 2018 19:13:12 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=18849#comment-126380 Hi Janet, our family needs help. I have a 4 year old son and a 2.5 year old daughter and I am expecting my third in 2.5months time. For the most part we have a very loving, gentle and respectful house- until the screaming starts. My very bright, very articulate daughter will all of a sudden erupt with very little warning into an incredibly high volume, ear splitting screaming tantrum for up to an hour at times. I am a SAHM and I know that these usually occur around her becoming hungry or tired. I try to keep to a very strict routine and ensure I have snacks with me at all times, but when I’m making dinner and she’s demanding snack food immediately, inevitably a scream fest will ensue. I offer her fruit and ask her to use her words while she waits for the dinner to cook but often even by that point she is beyond listening. There is absolutely no getting through to her when she starts, she will scream so loud you can’t even get through to acknowledge her feelings or give options such as helping prepare the food etc.

It’s the same at bedtimes, particularly when my husband tries to help put them to bed so I can have a seat downstairs. She will scream and scream that she wants me and only me, she won’t let him help and tries to run down the stairs at every opportunity. I sit downstairs and leave him to try to talk to her, as I don’t want to step on his toes when he’s parenting. He starts off very well and tries his best, distractions, humour, acknowledging her frustrations etc. but somehow it always turns into a battle of wills which she wins hands down (she would scream for hours and hurt herself if I didn’t step in). He repeatedly tells her to stop screaming and that she’s upsetting everyone, which is something I don’t agree with as I don’t think it’s healthy for her to be shamed for her behaviour. I inevitably have to intervene as I can tell the situation is getting out of hand.

When I go up, she will quickly calm down and settle and I am able to talk with her and let her know that that noisy behaviour is not acceptable and that daddy was only trying to help. She will then say without prompting that she wants to give Daddy a cuddle and say sorry for her screaming.

How do we move on from these explosive tantrums and how can I better equip my husband to deal with the behaviour, since he is undoubtedly going to have to take over a bit more once the baby is born.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

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By: Marian https://www.janetlansbury.com/2018/06/recognizing-the-cause-of-disruptive-aggressive-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-126328 Fri, 06 Jul 2018 21:39:44 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=18849#comment-126328 In reply to Marian.

Wow! I never realized I wrote such long posts! Well, short upupdate: daughter spilled dog treats all over room…I was calm, casual and we cleaned it up together. It was fun, once I stepped out of AH!

I was busy with mouse guy and thought she was still occupied ….babysitter during appts next time…

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By: Marian https://www.janetlansbury.com/2018/06/recognizing-the-cause-of-disruptive-aggressive-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-126325 Fri, 06 Jul 2018 11:14:36 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=18849#comment-126325 In reply to Marian.

Update: she totally snuggled in her towel on my lap after bath! It was glorious! A bit later, she had a crying fit because I turned down the bed and she had wanted to do that. I stopped trying to make my point and just saw this beautiful child crying and my face softened, my arms went out and she came to me. I rubbed her back and let her cry. Then, she said, Can we have a Do-Over?

Thrilled! I ask for this when I have screwed up. We had a do-over, I let her do the bed, and today, journaling, upon reflection, I realize I am going to say this to her today: About the bed last night, it would be helpful to tell you my side of the story and then we can find a way to work it out together.

We had a do-over, but she never fully understood she had me standing in the middle of the room waiting to get onto the bed: I usually close shades, turn down bed and wait there while she picks books. She took my job 🙂

I am sure she did this because she really loves to do what I do, but I didn’t want to stand there AND I didn’t want to give up my job…I like preparing the room for bed. So, I have to seriously think about whether or not I am going to give the bed turning to her: I want to be true to myself…a battle last night right at bedtime wasn’t the time.

I will say this, I have to search your site for boundaries posts: she is asking me to know what they are by her testing. I am so grateful, as I am ready to work on this part of my life. Once I know what I want, then I will be able to allow her strong feelings of protest—but, sadly, I had been taught to be either dominant or a doormat. She’s helping me find my true center.

Also, she got crumbs on the couch and I was mad. Was so taken off guard I acted like my mother (dialed back A LOT, though)….TODAY, I am going to take her hands, speak directly to her and say, We had a mouse in our house….would you like to help us not have that happen again?

Correct me if I am wrong, but I really think she does things she knows “shouldn’t” be done, because she wants to know, ‘And will you still love me when I do this?…this?…how about this???’ Because of course she knows about crumbs. Also, she said, “but do you still love me?” And I said, even though I was so mad inside, “My love for you never ends or goes away…” and she said,

“Really?!”

I stayed casual, ‘Yep. My love for you only grows, never ends.’

THIS is why I scour your site regularly: I had an idea in my head of what it meant to be a parent and it was EXTREMELY narrowly focused—and full of traps, because I kept imitating my mother, rather than be present.

I was rarely respected and I am now learning how to be respectful. You are helping me in many areas of my life, not just raising my beautiful, always loved, daughter. I am getting better and better at seeing the ‘crumbs’ for what they are: nothing to do with crumbs on the couch, but another request for affirmation of my never-ending, bottomless love and respect for my daughter. I don’t have to yell about the crumbs to get help with keeping the house mouse free. I can be real in my frustration and worries…but I told her she was rude for doing that….I need to not open my mouth when I am mad. Period. And I have to let her know she is forgiven…I never was and this builds the shame.

Thanks, Janet.

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By: Marian https://www.janetlansbury.com/2018/06/recognizing-the-cause-of-disruptive-aggressive-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-126322 Thu, 05 Jul 2018 13:38:56 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=18849#comment-126322 Janet, your guidance and teaching sinks in on so many different levels, that my understanding blooms so unexpectedly. For example, I actually apologized to my 4 nearly 5 yo for ever getting mad at her for making a mess. I told her I made a mistake, because it is my job to teach her how to take care of things, put things away etc. It was a two second one way conversation from me, but I treated the messes the way my mother did and she blamed us: bad kids.

How were we to know, if we weren’t taught? Responsibity is taught. So, once again, my voice is losing Another edge to it: We Need To Clean Up This Mess….instead, this morning, with a ripped apart house, I said, I work best in a home that is pulled together. Oh, you played all over the living room…ok, well, we will read and talk in here, but your toys stay in the playroom. And then I cleaned up.

Well, she went into the kitchen and started clearing off the table, in a sweet singsong voice, preparing it for our making pancakes: after the house is picked up.

Finally, the paradigm shift I needed: the kids are not to blame. The kids are to be taught, guided, modeled to. I am slowly coming around to actually being the adult in the house and not the reactive child/adult. I am shedding my upbringing through your insight.

Also, thank you for the tip on physically helping child into house or car who may not be listening: “Time to come inside! …. (one minute pass) Ok, time to come inside….” I, now, happily, go outside and take her hand, with love and patience, and lead her inside. Flailing, she might be, but I let go when I see she means it that she wants to run in herself and not actually run away. Usually, she just lets me guide her by the shoulders. I love how involved I still get to be in her life. I miss the baby years and I actually feel like we never left, in that I sense my intense importance even though she seems so independent.

At bath time, she got out and toweled off without me. I fear the night before was the last time she would get wrapped into my lap and we’d watch the water go into a whirlpool: my getting to hug hug hug her … but this morning we ended up snuggling in bed for a while. You have calmed me down so much that I am deeply involved in her day to day on a new level from babyhood.

Thank you so much!

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By: Nicole https://www.janetlansbury.com/2018/06/recognizing-the-cause-of-disruptive-aggressive-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-126310 Sun, 01 Jul 2018 03:47:04 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=18849#comment-126310 In reply to Anna.

Keep reading here! Every single situation you described so well has been addressed somewhere here. Congratulations on your beautiful growing family. You will find what you need here, but mostly notice how Janet acknowledges our regret when we yell, but says to forgive ourselves and start again. Parenting is hard, but she really shows how we can see the yelling, screaming, tantrums, hitting: all the difficult stuff our children do is actually the best part of parenting, because it is our children trusting us to be their faithful guides. To love them no matter. To be confident: it’s only emotions…we’ve got this.

Also, go ahead and swoop your son up and say you are my baby and go ahead and baby him. My daughter doesn’t have siblings, but is nearing five and sometimes needs to slow things down and be my baby for a few minutes. I meet her where she is.

Read read read everything on this site and you will watch yourself become so confident. Still exhausted and weary (parenting is hard!), but you just feel more knowledgeable and less at a loss.

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By: Anna https://www.janetlansbury.com/2018/06/recognizing-the-cause-of-disruptive-aggressive-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-126287 Sat, 23 Jun 2018 03:48:37 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=18849#comment-126287 Hello, I have been struggling for a little over a year with my older son who is almost 4 who is constantly hurting my younger son that is two and a half. I was expecting him to act out when my younger son was first born, but didn’t have too many issues except could never leave the little one in his reach for a second because he would want to hug (smother) him or poke him but it was with love, he was just so little he didn’t know how to gentle. When the younger one was about a year and a half, the older one started hitting, throwing toys, occasionally biting him, taking toys from him to run and hide them (although there are some times he takes them because he really does want to have play with them), and running into a room and slamming the door on the younger ones face (or whatever body part may get caught) as he is chasing him. The younger one immediately starts crying and either falls to the ground or runs to me. I have tried everything (time out, taking a favorite toy away, spanking, talking to him about how he is hurting the younger brother-“see how sad he is”) and nothing has helped. He also has begun imitating him (repeating things he does even if he knows better, for example mispronouncing words he know how to say) and some clinginess to me. From reading your blog, it seems I have been making things worse and am trying to implement your suggestions. He does not seem to be angry or throwing a tantrum when he does these things but they generally seem to be having a good time together when all of a sudden he will throw something at the younger ones head etc. He seems to think it’s all in good fun and when I asked him once why he does those things he says because “it’s funny”. I go to him and say no I will not let him hurt him again and usually he doesn’t try again, and I try and wait and watch them for awhile but maybe half an hour later he is hurting him or taking something again so I am having a hard time practically speaking being there to stop the throwing, hitting, biting unless I just suck it up for a few weeks and be there and watch them constantly at their side to see if it helps. But it feels almost impossible to be right there with them all day.He also loves being with his brother and wants to play with him and I have talked to him and told him that his brother is not going to want to play with him if he is hurting him and not nice to him. I don’t know if I shouldn’t have said that though. I have since become pregnant and am now four months and while I have noticed an increase in clinginess with the oldest (he asks me a lot more to hold and hug him and tells me he wants to be smaller like a baby) the other behaviors are about the same and I am having a really hard time keeping calm as I have been so much more emotional now being pregnant. I have been trying to give the older one plenty of attention. I even tried to have a date night just me and him and took him out to McDonalds and we were going to go buy some craft supplies he was wanting but the whole time he was just wanting to go back and play with brother and dad because they were going to the park! I try and him more options throughout the day so he feels more control and started taking your advice this past week (I just found your blog recently) to let them try and figure it out if the older one takes something from the younger (although he always overpowers the younger when the younger says “no” and tries to hold on). I want to give it a good solid try to let them work things out before I intervene and have been trying to just acknowledge the younger ones feelings and hold him if he comes to me. Sometimes I wonder if the older one is getting a power rise from seeing the younger one get upset and not just myself. I feel plenty calm when it’s just about taking toys but when he actually hurts him, it’s hard for me not to get upset. Any other advice or insight is much appreciated.

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By: Piper Kotsaftis https://www.janetlansbury.com/2018/06/recognizing-the-cause-of-disruptive-aggressive-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-126282 Fri, 22 Jun 2018 04:01:48 +0000 http://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=18849#comment-126282 This is really helpful. I have a 4 year old son and a 3 month old daughter and have been experiencing a lot of screaming from my son. I agree with what you write and try my best to welcome his feelings. My question is what do I do when the screaming scares the baby? If I am alone with them. I don’t want to leave my son to feel abandoned but the baby really gets scared at a certain nouse level.

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