Comments on: Water Safety, Bodily Autonomy, and Emotional Health https://www.janetlansbury.com/2021/04/water-safety-bodily-autonomy-and-emotional-health/ elevating child care Fri, 08 Sep 2023 01:24:06 +0000 hourly 1 By: janet https://www.janetlansbury.com/2021/04/water-safety-bodily-autonomy-and-emotional-health/comment-page-1/#comment-132924 Fri, 08 Sep 2023 01:24:06 +0000 https://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=20659#comment-132924 In reply to Kerrigan.

Thank you for sharing with me, Kerrigan!

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By: Kerrigan https://www.janetlansbury.com/2021/04/water-safety-bodily-autonomy-and-emotional-health/comment-page-1/#comment-132922 Wed, 06 Sep 2023 07:16:32 +0000 https://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=20659#comment-132922 Sorry to inundate your inbox but I really wanted to comment on this as it has been a great example as to how your work has helped me. I came across this a few weeks ago after one particularly horrible swimming lesson where I struggled not to blow up at my 2 and a 1/2 year old son who screamed and kicked at unexpected moments throughout the lesson. After listening, I concluded I did fall into the ‘do swimming lessons camp’, I’m a surf lifesaver and we live near the water. But despite this, I decided to go with my gut and let him decide what he would try. We hop into the water with our child here – which meant if there was anything he didn’t want to do, I had the ability to accomodate that. So that’s what we did – for example, he hates back floating and submerging his face, despite the fact he can do both well. I told him before lessons started that he would choose what to do today and while the first lesson was a bit tough, I kept my word and stopped the minute I felt any resistance. I know it really paid off ’cause we had our second lesson using this approach yesterday and we both had a BLAST. He is the furthest behind the class by a mile and isn’t doing things that I’ve seen him do but I’ve realised after listening to this podcast that I don’t care at all. A few comments by the teacher rattled me a bit but I listened to this again and it’s really helping me stay the course. He was so full of smiles and giggles this time that it surprised and delighted the others. This ‘child-centered’ approach can and has worked. Over time, I imagine he’ll want to try more but I’ll wait for him to tell me that he is ready.

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By: Donna https://www.janetlansbury.com/2021/04/water-safety-bodily-autonomy-and-emotional-health/comment-page-1/#comment-132747 Sat, 13 May 2023 03:49:12 +0000 https://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=20659#comment-132747 As a former swim instructor, I feel physically ill whenever a fellow parent tells me their child is in an “infant rescue swim” class. It’s so traumatic and there is NO swim lesson(s) that will “drown proof” a child. THANK YOU so much for your thoughtful and well-researched response. These types of swim lessons give parents false confidence and traumatize babies and children. Monetizing a parent’s worst fear is irresponsible, at best. I have many other thoughts on this topic, but I’ll leave it at that.

And if you’re a parent reading this, listen to your instincts and do NOT put your child through this. Be with them in and near water 100% of the time, implement the multi safety measures mentioned above if you have a pool, and introduce regular swim lessons when they are old enough to verbalize their feelings to you.

That’s my two cents. Do with it what you will. You know your child(ren) best.

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By: Michelle Yip https://www.janetlansbury.com/2021/04/water-safety-bodily-autonomy-and-emotional-health/comment-page-1/#comment-131534 Thu, 14 Apr 2022 11:44:10 +0000 https://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=20659#comment-131534 Hi Janet. What are you thoughts of ISR classes? They are only 10 mins each class but can be intense. Many people frown upon this method and call it “traumatic” but the goal is to teach children what to do in water during all circumstances, even if they fall in with winter clothing on. Is the limit of 10 minutes per class enough to outweigh the potential fears?

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By: Tallulah https://www.janetlansbury.com/2021/04/water-safety-bodily-autonomy-and-emotional-health/comment-page-1/#comment-131524 Wed, 13 Apr 2022 18:33:02 +0000 https://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=20659#comment-131524 In reply to Brittany.

I also am no statistician, but I can’t understand how formal swimming lessons for 1 – 4 yr olds could ever help reduce risk of drowning (apart from teaching respect for water which you don’t need formal lessons to instill).
My eldest is a born water baby and always enjoyed swimming. She learnt to swim without aids by age 4. But whenever they did a session in lessons where they wore a t-shirt she wasn’t strong enough to swim! So doubt she would manage falling in fully clothed, or the many many other circumstances that would lead to drowning. My 2nd daughter was naturally fearful of water and always wanted full body contact with me from at least age 1-3 so I never dreamed of forcing her to do lessons. She found her confidence in the water playing in the paddling pool and now loves her swim lessons age 5. I’m in no rush to start expensive lessons with my 19 month old. They always have a cold at that age anyway! Just play in the pool and bath etc to remain comfortable with water.

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By: Emma D https://www.janetlansbury.com/2021/04/water-safety-bodily-autonomy-and-emotional-health/comment-page-1/#comment-130175 Sat, 10 Apr 2021 12:32:51 +0000 https://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=20659#comment-130175 Hi Janet,
In your podcast you quoted from Magda Gerber’s book about the visit to the swimming lesson that after putting the children under the water: “Bursting into broad smiles, repeating, ‘Isn’t this fun! We have fun!’ while looking into their babies’ surprised and frightened faces”. And then she wrote” How could these loving caring parents not see or read their children’s feelings? It looks like, ‘I see what I want to see, or I enjoy it, you should enjoy it too. Or you have no reason to be upset while I try so hard to do what I know is good for you.’

I teach parent-child swimming lessons and I agree with all you said in your podcast. I do talks on Water Safety and I say it’s like the Location Location Location are the first 3 most important things about buying a house well in water safety it’s Supervision! Supervision! Supervision!!!
I wanted to ask you with regards to the quotes above where you lie on the thinking that our children often look to us for how to react to something. I have often said to parents, when we first put their child under the water, to ensure they put on a smile for their child to see as they come up. (I’d like to add that we have, by this point, taught parents to use cuing to give the child a heads up that water is to be sprinkled over their head, or that they will go under, so that the child has a chance to prepare or object, and that parents look for signs of readiness or objection and react according to the child’s reactions).
In the quotes above the point was that the child’s reactions were being ignored which is definitely not the way to go! I have heard that babies and indeed teenagers can find it difficult to read some facial expressions such as confusion or questioning looks and that they can often interpret these as anger. Is this correct and as I said before what’s your thoughts on how much our reaction can affect their reaction?
It is very late as I write this so I’m hoping it makes some sense to you!
Thank you

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By: janet https://www.janetlansbury.com/2021/04/water-safety-bodily-autonomy-and-emotional-health/comment-page-1/#comment-130172 Fri, 09 Apr 2021 18:32:51 +0000 https://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=20659#comment-130172 In reply to Gene.

Great advice. Thank you, Gene.

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By: Gene https://www.janetlansbury.com/2021/04/water-safety-bodily-autonomy-and-emotional-health/comment-page-1/#comment-130171 Fri, 09 Apr 2021 14:13:06 +0000 https://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=20659#comment-130171 I bookmarked this years ago. https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/family/story/mom-investigates-drownings-posts-viral-plea-parents-water-64263047?fbclid=IwAR2QR6RMFU0VhubhxMqPNuz0tOf7sfDeU57ewZyiUSB4UCqNJzOSBkDXYzw

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By: janet https://www.janetlansbury.com/2021/04/water-safety-bodily-autonomy-and-emotional-health/comment-page-1/#comment-130166 Wed, 07 Apr 2021 21:37:09 +0000 https://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=20659#comment-130166 In reply to Caroline H..

Thank you for sharing your perspective, Caroline. Nicole’s story is horrific and heartbreaking. I read it just now. I am aware that drowning usually happens out of the parents’ sight and that’s why I emphasized:

“…these stories left me breathless, because the parents had all looked away. They’d been doing something else for a moment and didn’t see this happening. And I know that happens in life. But this is the most important thing for protecting our children — that we never (and you don’t hear me say never, ever very often, but I’m going to say it now), we never, ever allow our child to have access to water without complete undistracted supervision. Never, ever.

And that means that if we can’t supervise our child, that we ensure that they have barriers between them and water. We never allow our child access to a pool of water.”

This parent may not have been aware that her child could open the front door of the vacation home — that the barricade between her child and a swimming pool was penetrable. That was her tragic mistake. I imagine she was an otherwise attentive parent, but in this case she admits that she neglected to keep her child safe. Her recommendations are as follows:

“Drowning prevention requires multiple layers of protection. I now know Levi had zero barriers between himself and the water.

1. Install a 4-sided fence that goes fully around the entire pool.
2. Make sure the fence has self-closing and latching gates.
3. Utilize pool and door alarms.
4. Supervision: Designate a Water Guardian anytime there is access to water, even if the children are not swimming.
5. Enroll your child in quality swim lessons that lead to water competence. All swim lessons are not created equal. Progress should happen in weeks and months, not in years. Lessons should provide your child with the skills to survive if they were to fall into the pool. The American Academy of Pediatrics now recommends swim lessons can begin at age 1. These lessons should focus on self-rescue and teach your child how roll-to-float or how to get to the side of the pool. I firmly believe that swim lessons would have saved Levi, and I will carry this regret for the rest of my life. Do NOT put off swim lessons.
6. Remove toys from the pool when finished swimming.
7. Learn CPR (drowning CPR requires rescue breaths).
8. Don’t let your child rely on puddle jumpers or flotation devices when in the pool. These create a false sense of security. Levi wore one in the pool just hours before he died.
9. However, ALWAYS wear life jackets when on natural water (lakes, rivers, oceans). Natural water is dark, deep, and has currents. It is not the same as a pool.
10. Children can drown in 2 inches of water and in 30 seconds. Be aware of buckets, toilets, irrigation ditches, ponds, baby pools, and bathtubs.

Some days I have confidence that we will survive this loss, that we can be happy, that Levi has forgiven us. Some days, the pain is brand new and I’m the mom looking in horror over the balcony and into the pool.

I never would have imagined surviving this long after losing a child. Yet, we are and we will. We are determined that Levi’s legacy will not be one of anger and bitterness – but of love and shared connections and hope.

Put in layers of protection to prevent drowning. Love each other. Choose to live a purposeful life.”

Nicole is courageous and generous to share her story in the hope of helping others. She believes that swim lessons would have saved her son’s life, but so would all of her previous 4 points, which were sadly neglected in this case. Swim lessons are #5 on her list of layers.

I recommend swim lessons when they can be conducted with at least a modicum of attunement and respect for the child.

Again, thank you for sharing this information.

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By: Caroline H. https://www.janetlansbury.com/2021/04/water-safety-bodily-autonomy-and-emotional-health/comment-page-1/#comment-130165 Wed, 07 Apr 2021 17:40:34 +0000 https://www.janetlansbury.com/?p=20659#comment-130165 Janet,
I appreciate all the work you do to educate parents on how to guide the upbringing of their children. I am especially glad that you covered this topic. Drowning, as you mentioned and as described by the AAP, “is the leading cause of injury death in US children 1 to 4 years of age and the third leading cause of unintentional injury death among US children and adolescents 5 to 19 years of age.”

I agree with you and the AAP that MANY layers of protection are needed to prevent child drownings and that no child, no matter what swim lessons they have had, is “drown proof.” Supervision, pool fences, removing toys from pools when finished swimming, locked doors, and survival swim lessons are each a layer put in place to help prevent drowning. Whether or not a parent chooses to use survival swim lessons for their child is a personal choice.

I am commenting because I believe you left out one very important point in your podcast. And that is that the majority of drownings in ages 1-4 happen during times that a child is NOT expected to be near water. Meaning, they do not happen when the child is swimming. By leaving this point out and simultaneously emphasizing that parental supervision is always necessary when a child is near water I feel as though you are perpetuating the fallacy that child drownings only happen to neglectful parents.

Please consider adding this information to your podcast and post. I fear parents and caregivers will listen to your podcast as is and think, “I am an attentive parent. I will just watch my children when at the pool/beach.” and chose to not teach their youngest children to float/swim or implement other preventative measures.

Drowning can happen to children with the most attentive and careful parents. This is why layers of protection are so important. Nicole Hughes became an advocate for preventing child drownings after loosing her son, Levi. I implore you to reach out to her as she can more eloquently explain how parents can live in a false sense of security when they believe that drowning only happens to to neglectful parents.

Thank you.

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